Evidence for God from Science

Many people do not realize that Michael Heiser's interests and research go well beyond the Bible and theology. He also likes to debunk false beliefs. And one topic he debunks is the common beliefs people have about UFOs or asserted alien visitations, whether like the recent tic-tac UFOs, or Roswell, or ancient alien visitations shows common on the History or Discover Channel. And he mostly only considers scholarly research on such topics.

Here he talks about recent UFOs in the news: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-Aa_ZxlHjU

Or here on his blog: https://drmsh.com/category/uforeligions/

Or here on his podcast: https://www.buzzsprout.com/84561/497446 ... ael-heiser

Philip wrote: ↑Sat Apr 24, 2021 12:11 pm Many people do not realize that Michael Heiser's interests and research go well beyond the Bible and theology. He also likes to debunk false beliefs. And one topic he debunks is the common beliefs people have about UFOs or asserted alien visitations, whether like the recent tic-tac UFOs, or Roswell, or ancient alien visitations shows common on the History or Discover Channel. And he mostly only considers scholarly research on such topics.

Here he talks about recent UFOs in the news: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-Aa_ZxlHjUphrazle

Or here on his blog: https://drmsh.com/category/uforeligions/

Or here on his podcast: https://www.buzzsprout.com/84561/497446 ... ael-heiser

The one area he addresses is the widespread misbelief in UFOs and extraterrestrial visitation claims, such as those shown on popular History Channel and Discover Channel programs like Ancient Aliens and Tic-Tac UFOs. Additionally, he often solely takes into account academic studies on these issues.

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Failcardamom: The one area he addresses is the widespread misbelief in UFOs and extraterrestrial visitation claims, such as those shown on popular History Channel and Discover Channel programs like Ancient Aliens and Tic-Tac UFOs. Additionally, he often solely takes into account academic studies on these issues.

You are correct - in fact, when it comes to Heiser's UFO and phenomena research, he says he only looks at peer-reviewed sources from academics, likely to save himself the time from looking at lots of mere claims and fakery. BTW, Heiser does not believe in aliens or that they have visited us. However, he is open to aliens perhaps existing very far away from us, but says there currently is ZERO proof of such!

Philip

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You are accurate; in reality, Heiser claims to exclusively consult academic sources that have undergone peer review when conducting his UFO and phenomenon research. This is probably done to spare himself time from having to go through a large number of baseless assertions and outright fabrications. Heiser, however, rejects the idea that extraterrestrials exist or have ever come to Earth. He is, nevertheless, open to the possibility that aliens exist far from Earth.

Lesteraction, welcome to the GodandScience forum!

And, Les, make sure you see this post as well: viewtopic.php?t=43826

Anyone familiar with the end times topic should know by now that there are many who say that satan will use the "alien" question to cement his puppet the anti-Christ into his position as world leader.
"Aliens" are nothing but the creation of satan to trick humans into whatever he wants us to believe.

I mean just look at the ancient aliens crowd. So fanatic, so easily manipulated. If "aliens" really were to arrive and claim they are our creators (through manipulation of some ape's DNA), they, and MANY others who were not into that movement, would believe every word that came out of their lying mouths.

The kicker of course that would come later would be that Jesus was not human but one of them, sent to teach us. The mistakes in the Bible would of course be corrected through their superior knowledge.

So how, as the Bible indicates, do you get the whole world to hate true Christians so much that you would think you are doing God's work by killing them? Well there would be several lines of attack, and this would be one of them, because no Christian would believe that Jesus was an alien or that they are our creators.

Stu, you never know what the government might try to manipulate the public into believing about UFOs - things are getting strange - see this article posted today, as to what certain Pentagon officials are suggesting: https://www.foxnews.com/science/pentago ... obes-earth

Philip wrote: ↑Tue Mar 14, 2023 6:53 pm Stu, you never know what the government might try to manipulate the public into believing about UFOs - things are getting strange - see this article posted today, as to what certain Pentagon officials are suggesting: https://www.foxnews.com/science/pentago ... obes-earth

Yeah all kinds of crazy stuff about "aliens" is being pushed out there into the public consciousness. Getting people ready.

I don't know what the exact narrative will be, ie. friendly vs bad aliens, just friendly, etc. but I'm pretty sure they will form part of satan's great end times deception.

Michael Heiser's research and interests extend much beyond the Bible and theology, something a lot of people are unaware of. Furthermore, he enjoys dispelling myths. He also dispels myths regarding UFOs and claimed extraterrestrial visitations, including those sparked by contemporary documentaries like Tic-Tac UFOs and Roswell as well as older programmes like those on the History and Discover Channels that focus on ancient alien encounters. And the majority of the time, he solely takes academic research into account.

Lesteraction wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 11:37 pm Michael Heiser's research and interests extend much beyond the Bible and theology, something a lot of people are unaware of. Furthermore, he enjoys dispelling myths. He also dispels myths regarding UFOs and claimed extraterrestrial visitations, including those sparked by contemporary documentaries like Tic-Tac UFOs and Roswell as well as older programmes like those on the History and Discover Channels that focus on ancient alien encounters. And the majority of the time, he solely takes academic research into account.

Hello, Lester, and welcome to godandscience!

Yep, Heiser was a great scholar - don't know if you realize he passed away - in February, I think? Mike has said, as far as UFOs are concerned, that he didn't even pay attention to any research that wasn't peer-reviewed. He was tremendous at debunking much of the half-baked stuff that gets passed around.

Dr. Mike Heiser is a scholar who provides insights into UFOs, aliens, and related topics from a theological and historical perspective. He explores ancient texts, mythology, and biblical accounts to offer alternative perspectives and challenge popular beliefs surrounding extraterrestrial phenomena, providing thought-provoking analysis and scholarly discourse on the subject.

Yes he does, JamesO - and welcome to the forum! What brings you here?