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Woman gets raped, punish the baby by killing him/her. Got it!PaulSacramento wrote: ↑Wed May 29, 2019 9:31 am To me, Pro-Life is simple: Life takes precedence.
What does that mean?
It means the taking of a life MUST be justified, it simply can not be done by "choice" or anything else.
It is also why I am against capital punishment ( one of a few reasons).
In direct terms:
The taking of a life is justified when saving another life, when putting an end to suffering, when no other option is possible and when it is a necessity.
I am NOT Pro-Choice because choice can not be a factor in whether a life should be taken.
The mere thought that CHOICE, the simple act of choosing to kill, is acceptable enough to justify killing, makes NO SENSE to me.
A pregnancy can be terminated of the life of the mother is in danger.
It can be terminated if the mental health of the person is in danger ( not all women can carry the child of their rapist).
Simply choosing to kill is, quite simply, Wrong.
Absolutely NOT a Biblical stance. Women who get pregnant from rape are of the tiniest percentage of unwanted pregnancies - and there is ALWAYS an adoption option. And whom might I ask will determine whether their mental health is at risk - the person with a self motivation that likely has not one thing to do with their mental health? Abortion doctors willing to signt off on it? Inserting such a caveat into abortion law would simply keep the floodgates open for women using a supposed mental health threat to justify killing their unborn child. When we make abortion law to favor mostly rare cases - especially when that legalese opens the door to millions of totally unnecessary abortions - well, that is a horrible thing!It can be terminated if the mental health of the person is in danger ( not all women can carry the child of their rapist).
As someone that has seen, FIRST HAND, the psychological and emotional damage of rape, LONG TERM ( I know of one that commited suicide for example), I can say this:RickD wrote: ↑Wed May 29, 2019 9:44 amWoman gets raped, punish the baby by killing him/her. Got it!PaulSacramento wrote: ↑Wed May 29, 2019 9:31 am To me, Pro-Life is simple: Life takes precedence.
What does that mean?
It means the taking of a life MUST be justified, it simply can not be done by "choice" or anything else.
It is also why I am against capital punishment ( one of a few reasons).
In direct terms:
The taking of a life is justified when saving another life, when putting an end to suffering, when no other option is possible and when it is a necessity.
I am NOT Pro-Choice because choice can not be a factor in whether a life should be taken.
The mere thought that CHOICE, the simple act of choosing to kill, is acceptable enough to justify killing, makes NO SENSE to me.
A pregnancy can be terminated of the life of the mother is in danger.
It can be terminated if the mental health of the person is in danger ( not all women can carry the child of their rapist).
Simply choosing to kill is, quite simply, Wrong.
No, it isn't a biblical stance.Philip wrote: ↑Wed May 29, 2019 10:10 amAbsolutely NOT a Biblical stance. Women who get pregnant from rape are of the tiniest percentage of unwanted pregnancies - and there is ALWAYS an adoption option. And whom might I ask will determine whether their mental health is at risk - the person with a self motivation that likely has not one thing to do with their mental health? Abortion doctors willing to signt off on it? Inserting such a caveat into abortion law would simply keep the floodgates open for women using a supposed mental health threat to justify killing their unborn child. When we make abortion law to favor mostly rare cases - especially when that legalese opens the door to millions of totally unnecessary abortions - well, that is a horrible thing!It can be terminated if the mental health of the person is in danger ( not all women can carry the child of their rapist).
It's simple. Either the fetus is a human being, or it isn't. If it is, it shouldn't be killed.PaulSacramento wrote: ↑Wed May 29, 2019 11:42 amAs someone that has seen, FIRST HAND, the psychological and emotional damage of rape, LONG TERM ( I know of one that commited suicide for example), I can say this:RickD wrote: ↑Wed May 29, 2019 9:44 amWoman gets raped, punish the baby by killing him/her. Got it!PaulSacramento wrote: ↑Wed May 29, 2019 9:31 am To me, Pro-Life is simple: Life takes precedence.
What does that mean?
It means the taking of a life MUST be justified, it simply can not be done by "choice" or anything else.
It is also why I am against capital punishment ( one of a few reasons).
In direct terms:
The taking of a life is justified when saving another life, when putting an end to suffering, when no other option is possible and when it is a necessity.
I am NOT Pro-Choice because choice can not be a factor in whether a life should be taken.
The mere thought that CHOICE, the simple act of choosing to kill, is acceptable enough to justify killing, makes NO SENSE to me.
A pregnancy can be terminated of the life of the mother is in danger.
It can be terminated if the mental health of the person is in danger ( not all women can carry the child of their rapist).
Simply choosing to kill is, quite simply, Wrong.
If a woman can NOT handle the emotional and psychological damage of being raped AND becoming pregnant from that rape that, yes, abortion should be an option.
I don't AGREE with it, BUT I do understand and see it as a justification.
Exactly - it's not as if everything's necessarily going to be fine once an unplanned baby is saved from abortion. I have quite a problem with the hardline fiscal conservatives; I've only lived in countries with mainly government-funded healthcare and it's good. I can't see any Australian government ever changing it much, unless some far-right party gets in someday. It's the biggest use of tax dollars, but money well-spent in my opinion.Philip wrote: ↑Wed May 29, 2019 7:16 am A lot of people who are pro-life need to go deeper in their thinking, actions and responsibility than just being anti-abortion, to really see what else our pro-life sentiments might need to include - and this article addresses that: https://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/20 ... trust.html
It's simple. Either the fetus is a human being, or it isn't. If it is, it shouldn't be killed.IF it was "that simple", we wouldn't be discussing it.