Evidence for God from Science

I came across this book today, I would really appreciate any views on it. I have read a few criticisms of the book but personally I found a lot of truth in it. A lot resonated with me and there were quite a few things that i found I agree with.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betty_Eadie

Betty Eadie is a Native American, and she had a NDE.

Those are both up B. W.'s alley. Maybe he'll comment. Unless he has reservations.

Sometimes NDEs are legit, sometimes i think they are from a bad source too, tho sometimes from GOD.

Storyteller wrote:I came across this book today, I would really appreciate any views on it. I have read a few criticisms of the book but personally I found a lot of truth in it. A lot resonated with me and there were quite a few things that i found I agree with.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betty_Eadie

What do you make of the fact that she's a Mormon and she talks about every religion being necessary for everyone due to levels of enlightenment?

RickD wrote:Betty Eadie is a Native American, and she had a NDE.

Those are both up B. W.'s alley. Maybe he'll comment. Unless he has reservations.

I didn't know B.W. was American Indian? If he has reservations, it should be alright so long as the elders grant permission.

Annette,

Just a couple of things to think about after you read the book.

1) In what light does the story put Mormonism?

2) Does the story put the Bible underneath Mormon doctrine?

There was plenty in the book that I don't agree with, particularly what she says about other faiths or how she plays down Christianity but in fairness she does state that the only way to God is through Christ. She claims Christ is seperate from God too.
I think what grabbed me was how she describes our spirits as being eternal and how we were all once with God. She states that we all have our own unique role in life, that everything has a purpose to Gods plan.
She says our spirit is contained in every cell of our bodies and that we have some kind of genetic memory of it, that when we meet someone that we just "click" with it is because our spirits know each other.
Her description of meeting Christ and experiencing her life review was fascinating.
I liked that she quoted Scripture in her book and she does say that the only way to God is through Christ.
As for her thoughts on other faiths, she does say that God knows what is in our hearts and we are all placed best to allow us to grow and learn. She mentions a darkness, where she alludes to perhaps certain spirits are still reaching out to find God.

There was a lot of new age kind of thinking in the book but i did like her imagery.

For me, her book was about loving God and loving others. It was about forgiveness too.

I didn't know she was a Mormon until after I read the book and don't know anything about Mormon doctrine.

I think there was a reason, a purpose, to me finding and reading that book. I think God used it to answer some of my questions, and, I got comfort from it.

There is no book in the world that I will take as gospel, other than the Bible, but I do think seeds of truth can be found elsewhere.

People have written and teach all kinds of nonsense that sounds good, feels good, but isn't truthful - but IS mixed in with various truths. If this author is a Mormon, then you must realize that she is coming at things from a Mormon perspective, which often sounds Christ-like, but is not. I can guarantee you see believes Jesus is a created being and not God. And she says these "wonderful" things, but how does she know them - where did her understandings come from? A lot of New Age and Gnostic stuff has been blended with various bits of the Gospel. The reality is, if you attach false things to things that are true, and that are already believed as true, the easier it will be for people to swallow the false bits. It's like the fisherman with that juicy worm hiding a hook.

To add: Just remember, if this Author has bought into Mormonism, then she is starting from a point of view in which SHE has already been deceived, and then will likely pass along her own deceptions per her Mormon perspective.

Storyteller wrote:There was plenty in the book that I don't agree with, particularly what she says about other faiths or how she plays down Christianity but in fairness she does state that the only way to God is through Christ. She claims Christ is seperate from God too.
I think what grabbed me was how she describes our spirits as being eternal and how we were all once with God. She states that we all have our own unique role in life, that everything has a purpose to Gods plan.
She says our spirit is contained in every cell of our bodies and that we have some kind of genetic memory of it, that when we meet someone that we just "click" with it is because our spirits know each other.
Her description of meeting Christ and experiencing her life review was fascinating.
I liked that she quoted Scripture in her book and she does say that the only way to God is through Christ.
As for her thoughts on other faiths, she does say that God knows what is in our hearts and we are all placed best to allow us to grow and learn. She mentions a darkness, where she alludes to perhaps certain spirits are still reaching out to find God.

There was a lot of new age kind of thinking in the book but i did like her imagery.

For me, her book was about loving God and loving others. It was about forgiveness too.

I didn't know she was a Mormon until after I read the book and don't know anything about Mormon doctrine.

I think there was a reason, a purpose, to me finding and reading that book. I think God used it to answer some of my questions, and, I got comfort from it.

There is no book in the world that I will take as gospel, other than the Bible, but I do think seeds of truth can be found elsewhere.

It sounds like you are using discernment, which is good.

Just be cautious of false religions, and those promoting them, that use bits of truth to grab your attention. It's when we begin to dig deeper, that we really start to see some serious issues.

In general, Mormonism has a bad reputation. It's been looked at as a fruitcake religion. Maybe because of that, Mormonism has been promoting itself almost as just another Christian denomination. In their tv ads, they have been making a point to mention Christ a lot. I believe this is to draw in Christians.

Once one looks deeper into who the Mormon christ really is, or should I say isn't, then one gets to why Mormonism is a false religion, which promotes a false Christ, and a false gospel.

Rick: Once one looks deeper into who the Mormon christ really is, or should I say isn't, then one gets to why Mormonism is a false religion, which promotes a false Christ, and a false gospel.

IF this woman believes the false Mormon beliefs about Jesus, then she is NOT a Christian. While there might be some Mormons who don't understand their church's teachings about Christ, but that DO believe in what the Bible says about Him, that are saved. But I think such people are likely quite rare.

She did say in the book that it was "revealed" to her that Christ was created.
I think what intruiges me about stories like hers is that it was documented that she had died, what she experienced was real, to her, at least.

For everything she said, she did at least maintain that the only way to God is through Christ.

I think that each of our walks with Christ is as unique as we are. My heart belongs to God and I think he draws me closer in ways he knows I will respond to.
Anything like this that I read now, I read with the HS guiding me. Truth can be found in many places. Truth resides in me, i know it, because I have put my faith in Christ. i have the sheild of truth and sword of righteouness protecting me.

Words move me, I can read something and have an epiphany. I trust in my Lord, my God, my Father.

God talks to me, and reaches me, in a language I understand.
Its no good explaining something to a french person in english if they dont know any english. God knows I understand and respond to words.
I trust in him.

Storyteller wrote:
She did say in the book that it was "revealed" to her that Christ was created.

That is consistent with the false christ of Mormonism.

Any guesses who revealed that to her?

RickD wrote:

Storyteller wrote:
She did say in the book that it was "revealed" to her that Christ was created.

That is consistent with the false christ of Mormonism.

Any guesses who revealed that to her?

Exactly!

And so we must measure our experience-oriented perceptions and the feelings they bring through the lens of Scripture. We so love to hear things that make us feel good, or that match up with our desires. So you have a lot of people out there seeking the truth via experience and feelings - a terrible and often-dangerous way of pursuing it.

From my research NDE's are evidence for an afterlife but do not necessarily prove which God is the true God nor do they always line up with scripture,or what the person explains can be wrong or their own beliefs can be wrong.It is important to differentiate between what they describe about their NDE and their own personal beliefs.It can be determined which is the true God by religious debate though.NDE's are important because they are evidence for life after death but they must also be understood to be used properly for evidence.