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by Philip
Tue Nov 29, 2011 6:41 pm
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: Can God Ever Have An Original Thought?
Replies: 109
Views: 28676

Re: Can God Ever Have An Original Thought?

I don't think God can create other "times", tell me how would that work?
Cet-To, why would you think there could be ANYTHING God couldn't do, as long as it is not a fallacy type of thing, or sinful, and IF He so desired to do it and it so pleased Him to do it?
by Philip
Tue Nov 29, 2011 11:30 am
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: Can God Ever Have An Original Thought?
Replies: 109
Views: 28676

Re: Can God Ever Have An Original Thought?

Cet-To, this has become a straining of knats - a pointless dialogue. My entire point is that God has no limitations as to what He CAN do (not in what He CHOOSES to do, but in what He has the ABILITY to do), outside of logical fallacies, sinful acts, and self-imposed constraints, and that there are N...
by Philip
Tue Nov 29, 2011 9:10 am
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: Can God Ever Have An Original Thought?
Replies: 109
Views: 28676

Re: Can God Ever Have An Original Thought?

Cet-To says, "God is limited to the number of things He can create." Cet-To, you are confusing the number of things He HAS created with what He CAN create if He so desires to - which has infinite POSSIBILITIES and in which there are no limits as to what He can create (that are not illogic...
by Philip
Tue Nov 29, 2011 7:27 am
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: Can God Ever Have An Original Thought?
Replies: 109
Views: 28676

Re: Can God Ever Have An Original Thought?

Cet-To said, "God cannot make an infinite number of things it leads to contradictions since an actual infinite number of things has no beginning nor ending" What does "infinite" mean? It means unlimited - no limits. No beginning, no end and no limits on. If God has always created...
by Philip
Mon Nov 28, 2011 9:54 pm
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: Can God Ever Have An Original Thought?
Replies: 109
Views: 28676

Re: Can God Ever Have An Original Thought?

No one is really answering my original contention: that God cannot have a thought He'd never had before or something that He would one day do or decide, that He hasn't ALWAYS intimately known about. As if this was possible, then God would not be COMPLETE in His knowledge or all future things and eve...
by Philip
Sun Nov 27, 2011 8:50 pm
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: Can God Ever Have An Original Thought?
Replies: 109
Views: 28676

Re: Can God Ever Have An Original Thought?

Cet-To, glad we got that one worked out. Really, it's what I meant all along. But just to throw a theological wrench in - the heart of the matter is, can God surprise Himself? Can He ever not have knowledge of something He might not decide or plan courses of action and events around until some subse...
by Philip
Sun Nov 27, 2011 12:05 pm
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: Can God Ever Have An Original Thought?
Replies: 109
Views: 28676

Re: Can God Ever Have An Original Thought?

CeT-To, I think we're straining a knat, here. It is that ALL of God's KNOWLEDGE of events (past, present and future) are equally, simultaneously and perfectly clear to Him - certainly not that all events are all ongoing SIMULTANEOUSLY in real time or that He can simultaneously SEE THEM playing out i...
by Philip
Sat Nov 26, 2011 6:39 am
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: Can God Ever Have An Original Thought?
Replies: 109
Views: 28676

Re: Can God Ever Have An Original Thought?

Sure he knows all but he doesn't like see the block of timeline in one go because if he did it naturally means that there is no time but all events are equally real and there infront of God. What do you mean? Is God ALL knowing or not? Can He see and direct the future or not? We see events as they ...
by Philip
Fri Nov 25, 2011 8:47 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: global warming
Replies: 8
Views: 2476

Re: global warming

Believe me, this whole GW thing has people with hidden agendas on ALL sides of it (including believers, skeptics, those that don't care). People who want power, money, control, and whatever else - GW politics is a convenient vehicle to leverage whatever their ends might be. But let's just say that A...
by Philip
Fri Nov 25, 2011 10:37 am
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: Can God Ever Have An Original Thought?
Replies: 109
Views: 28676

Re: Can God Ever Have An Original Thought?

You take the position of B theory of time which includes God seeing all time simultaneous and all time is real which means Moses is still in the desert thousands of years ago and yet in heaven and Jesus is still at the cross and yet at the right hand of the Father. That is absolutely NOT what I am ...
by Philip
Thu Nov 24, 2011 2:31 pm
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: Can God Ever Have An Original Thought?
Replies: 109
Views: 28676

Re: Can God Ever Have An Original Thought?

If God can know all of OUR future actions, then He also must know what all of HIS future reactions and related thoughts will (accordingly) be in reaction to OUR future actions. If God has always known everything about us - before history - then how could He not also ALWAYS have known that, at some f...
by Philip
Wed Nov 23, 2011 10:17 am
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: Can God Ever Have An Original Thought?
Replies: 109
Views: 28676

Re: Can God Ever Have An Original Thought?

Yes God's First thoughts are His Original Thoughts. But don't you think that words "original thought" must also mean a "new" one - as in a thought He'd never yet had before or hadn't previously known He'd have? So, the question is, IF God is ALL knowing, can He Himself ever have...
by Philip
Mon Nov 21, 2011 8:34 am
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Will Creationists Admit They Are Wrong and Apologise?
Replies: 64
Views: 18240

Re: Will Creationists Admit They Are Wrong and Apologise?

So, your interpretation of this, is that the Noahic flood killed all animals on the entire face of the planet? I don't have a certain answer to this. But I believe that it is POSSIBLE that the flood was only regional in scope, and that it merely covered the then-known geographic stretch of mankind ...
by Philip
Sun Nov 20, 2011 7:30 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Will Creationists Admit They Are Wrong and Apologise?
Replies: 64
Views: 18240

Re: Will Creationists Admit They Are Wrong and Apologise?

"The man called his wife's name Eve, because she was the mother of ALL living." Could that mean that Eve was the mother of all who are made spiritually alive, through Christ? Not all the physically living humans? But that is not what the text says. Plus, no Christian has a spiritual MOTHE...
by Philip
Sat Nov 19, 2011 4:40 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Will Creationists Admit They Are Wrong and Apologise?
Replies: 64
Views: 18240

Re: Will Creationists Admit They Are Wrong and Apologise?

Does the text actually say that no other humans existed? Or does the text just say there were no other humans in the garden, where Adam lived? First of all, no others are mentioned. And Adam was formed from the dust of the earth - he was NOT born of a woman. Why would there be a special creation of...